I'm Suprised that your not doing anything Special for No 50!!!

I just preordered one of these. its amazing what it can do and yea its small.

Hopefully they noticed that number, or they don't think it's a big deal. Come on guys. OOO... Apple Boot Camp. I'll bet that was a surprise for them yesterday as much as it was to me. *waitin & prayin to see that $6000 PC that will cost $100 by the time i can afford it.* Should be another fine blended edition.

Is it going to stream live 1am GMT ????

What plug-in do I need to watch the live show with Firefox? I can watch the streaming past shows, but live shows are no go. I got latest WMP10 installed. Why are you make me use IE, cause that works.

Woo Hoo for Show No 50! I'm ready!

NOW!!!

has the feed started? i can't see it

Was anyone else noticing that the live stream of this show was pausing and hiccuping? I watch the show live twice a week and never had this happen before.

Should I sneak up on Patrick and scare him to get rid of these hiccups? :)

for john, try this http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/version64/plugin.aspx

I may have to just wait til the render the archive version. I've gotten about 70 sec of audio & maybe 12 "stills" instead of video. (it's :20 past the hour as I write this)
I'm getting ready to bail. Is anyone else having these issues?
Joe in Boston

Yep, the live stream is hiccuping for me as well. I just gave up on watching and will download the show later. At first I thought it was my computer since I was encoding divx, recording a show off of my all in wonder and watching the show but I guess it's not me.

I know it's just Murphy's law, but when they broke for commercials, suddenly the video & audio started streaming smoothly. As soon as they got back to live video - sput...sput...sputter :D
I give up. I can wait for the dl.
Maybe if enough of us bail, the feed will stream smoothly to the few left.
Joe in Boston

I miss the show again.
can't get use to the new time changes. 6000? gaming rig? wow :)

I'm glad to hear that it wasen't just me getting the hiccups! I just had Verizon move me to a new rack for my DSL to clean up some latency and give me a cleaner pipe, and I thought it might be that was causing it.

On sceond thought, I think I might know why we're all getting these hiccups: 'Brokeback Bandwidth' = It's Patrick Norton's sexy beast man legs in a kilt that is absorbing ZD's bandwidth! :)

Mark in Boston

Big 50!

I am getting so much lag right now. I have never had this before.

Im giving up. Im gona watch it tomorrow.

Thanks for the close-up! *hugs*

Yes I too had sputtering and buffering issues as well.

Thanks to Joe in Boston, it did get better towards the end but never completely cleared up!

And you are sooo right, Mark in Boston! Woo Hoo!
Do you know Joe, lol?!

And we have Roger Chang to thank for the leg shot, I'm sure, lol! Let's not forget the hard-working geeks behind the scenes as well! Thanks for working so hard to bring us great shows! :-) Congrats on 50!

I just changed over to verizon fios (from verizon DSL)
and now the stream lags. It never did on DSL. Well atleast later I'll be able to download the episode faster then ever before.

From PA

Hi Susie,

No I don't know Joe, Hi Joe! I'm a transplanted Jersey City NJ boy. I just moved up here to Boston last year. I think i'm still scaring the Bostonians with my 'Fuggetaboutit Jersey City' accent. :) It really is beautiful here, a nice change from New Joisey.

I'm not sure I should be thanking Roger for that close-up shot or not?? :) I had the pleasure to speak with Roger two years ago when my Daughter was on the old Call for Help TV Show on TechTV. I had a nice conversation with Roger before she went on air. It's good to see the old TechTV crew having alot of fun at Ziff Davis, and cranking out some great content.

Keep up the Great Work guys, we all appreciate it.

Maybe one of these days I will drop a resume on ZD, I would be a real treat to be involved with such a great effort like DL.TV. Heck, I may even wear my kilt on the interview. :)

Mark in Boston

Adding my .02 on the issue.

Had the same problem happen on Tuesday's episode and on the Cranky Geeks episode earlier today. The last few prior episodes I watched live were fine, dunno what changed.

hay my name is letario from the bahamas.......i have watched all the episodes of DlTV. I think you guys are doing a tremendous job. big 50 YEA

Hello everbody. I'm from Poland but now i'm studying in Denmark.

Maybe it was coincidence,but i had huge problems with streaming during the countdown before the show,but after i checked "do not use proxy server"..:

right click in the streaming window ->
options ->
network(or connection) tab ->
http protocol config ->
"do not use proxy server"..

..it suddenly became smooth playback at 514kbps. Once again, i'm not sure if this is a problem,but it worked for me this time:).

I hope it will somehow work for you. Give a comment if it gets better.

Pat(Norton Commander:>) and Bob...greeaat job guys. Keep em' coming:).

50 eps is great. i think 500 more or even 5000 more is now realistic

hi guys, its friday here in australia but i cant download the video :P. im assuming its friday 7th april! not april 6th - how can it be the same date but different day on two sides of the planet :P

haha take care and thanks again for the show.
ps: is there a psp version of the show? when are you going to talk about the different video formats again and the best way to switch between formats and not loose quality. thanks...

Friday is the 7th , not the 6th.

Cheers.

to aussieubs, if you are looking for a convertor for PSP try Lathe 2, it has a freeware cousin called Pocket Divx Encoder which is no longer supported but good for pda conversions.
Try it out, the psp functionality on Lathe 2 is fantastic - as with all video encoding, it is a game of tradeoffs encoding time, size and quality.
You can use that tool to do the job without reading a help file or knowing anything about ... well anything! Be sure to get the divx codecs(try the pack from ep48? they mentioned) to get full use out of it.
Enjoy.

I'm still waiting for PNorton to answer what the firewire drive was they showed in epsiode 45, its like some big sekrit.. :P

Friday is the 7th not the 6th:)

"...and will be available for download Friday April 6th."

I Gotta wait a whole year?!!

::sigh::

I'm wondering if anyone else his like me has had trouble with the DivX version of episode 50 - I've downloaded the show, it starts up with video but alas no sound. I am a one off case or have other people had this trouble?

Where can I get a Kilt online? I am from the United States.

I've been programming for 9 years. That includes many many web programming languages. I of course , still code all the time. It's my hobby. I am also into network security , and the underground part of it. However I do not maliciously hack into computers like most media people portray hackers. In fact I don't get into other people's computers at all. I secure my network , learn about exploits , and even try exploits on my own network. I am by far not a script kiddy.

My point is when I heard the comments on piracy and the discussion on SUSE and it's codecs I was blown away.

1. You as an online IPTV show for geeks should know that we all want to backup our dvd's. To say that it's GREY to watch a DVD is outrageous. The following reasons why:

1A. Windows has tons and tons of DVD Viewing applications. But when you get into linux it's a grey area?

1B. VLC Media player is a free player that can play any DVD or almost any video codec. Now to me if you wan't to watch your DVD on linux with VLC that isn't a grey area. That's FREEDOM.

1C. We as a group of geeks , hackers , coders and more should know that we are different. We understand computers in a much different way than others. You should all know that DVD backup should not be illegal. And to me it isn't.

2. I pirate all my music. I pirate a lot of movies. I do not pirate any games. I do not pirate any software. I admitted it. Now you can try to arrest me. However I buy a lot of stuff related to the music artist and I do go to the theatre a lot.

I do have a code of morals. The following is why I would pirate content:

1. Buying a CD does not help artists. It helps the asinine jerks up on the ladder of the RIAA. Supporting an artist would be buying shirts and other stuff from their website. Or going to their concert. I go to concerts all the time. Why would I want to give my money to the RIAA? Or apple and their shitty DRM ?

2. Movies suck. I do not want to go see star wars and pay 10 dollars plus snacks and come out saying it sucks. Another reason is cell phones , annoying people talking and crowds. I do however go to movie theatres A LOT. Why? I'll download the cam the day the movie comes out and see if the story is good. If I like it ill go watch it. I however never watch the entire movie. And I've purchased a cell phone signal killer from overseas. No more shitty cell phone crap in a theatre.

3. I would never take money from a good software company where the programmers are treated right and spend a lot of time making an excellent piece of software. Every piece of software on my computer is bought. However I use a lot of open source applications. Please don't tell me that's illegal. *rolls his eyes*

4. I support games I like. Every game on my computer is owned.

Watching DVD's on linux is not a grey area. And the MPAA and RIAA Will never ever stop "piracy". Why? They go after 13 year old girls downloading music and movies.

THE PEOPLE THEY SHOULD GO AFTER IS THE PEOPLE IN THE SCENE. Of course..I personally..love the scene.

Out of curiosity I downloaded and compared the h.264 and divx versions. The h.264 version which used to look the best, now looks washed out compared to the divx variant. I was just curious as to why the compression was increased over earlier episodes.

Where????!!!??
is Roberts Kilt!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JDisk rocks, thanks to the creator for making it and thanks to DL.TV for passing on the info! I've already tracked down a few large files I had managed to misplace and free up a few gigs. Nice find...

John C. Dvorak and Steve Gibson are the guest stars of the latest up in smoke podcast.

www.cigarvideopodcast.com

Axed

Thanks for that link!

Hey guys, love your show! I just wanted to say that your "Mac" guy really needs to brush up on his stuff. The way to right click on a Mac with a one-button mouse (or a trackpad) is to hold down the control key and then click. I'm not sure if that'll work with XP on a Mac, but it's been the standard on the Mac since Mac OS 8.

Yes, I totally agree that it's stupid not to have a two button trackpad (which is even more unforgivable than a single-button mouse because it's not replaceable), but not knowing how to control click ranks pretty high up there too! ;-)

Bryan C.
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InsideMacGames Writer & Reviewer

Great show... nice to see some Pinky and the Brain on your computer there.

Well, another great episode! The only odd thing was that when I tried to watch a clip online from that flash creature at the top of this page, it goes for about 4 seconds, then says buffering, then just does that same 4 seconds again, odd. Anyway, great episode and worth the hour long (more or less) download.

Finally, Patrick is wearing a kilt!:) I was crushed when Patrick left The Screen Savers, because I thought I would never see those sexy legs again. Now, I can't get the damn thing to play correctly, like others I am getting hiccups.:( Of all the crappy luck!

Found it humorous that Robert pops out from under the desk in the same show that Patrick is wearing a kilt. Only in San Francisco. Love your show. It's the best show on IPTV. (How's that for a marketing slogan)

Ok im tired of patricks empty promises. Said in the D block they would show quake 4 runnin on the mac. Im still waiting to see it and the show is over! He does this all the time, says he would do something by the end of the show or next show and never does it. STill waiting to see inside the mac mini, and still waiting to see the finished eched logo on his wife's iPod. Still waiting....

The Pioneer seems nice, but I have been listening to portable XM with the Delphi 2go for 6 months - its larger, yes (but pocketable), but at least in the NYC area, works great in terms of reception without there supplemental antenna. So not really a new breakthrough and I got the Delphi for 149 at the time. Not playing down the Pioneer, just saying this is only a refinement,not brand new tech.

I'm downloading the divx version of eps 50 and my download speeds keep jumping around. Between 0 and 50KB, it jumps around every second.

LOC: Saint Louis MO

***@****:~$ ping 68.142.120.44
PING 68.142.120.44 (68.142.120.44) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=35.4 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=34.6 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=34.1 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=32.8 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=5 ttl=53 time=34.5 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=6 ttl=53 time=39.6 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=7 ttl=53 time=33.0 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=8 ttl=53 time=33.9 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=9 ttl=53 time=33.9 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=10 ttl=53 time=32.8 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=11 ttl=53 time=32.5 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=12 ttl=53 time=34.1 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=13 ttl=53 time=32.3 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=14 ttl=53 time=33.9 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=15 ttl=53 time=33.7 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=16 ttl=53 time=34.1 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=17 ttl=53 time=36.8 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=18 ttl=53 time=33.4 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=19 ttl=53 time=34.1 ms
64 bytes from 68.142.120.44: icmp_seq=20 ttl=53 time=38.0 ms

--- 68.142.120.44 ping statistics ---
20 packets transmitted, 20 received, 0% packet loss, time 19017ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 32.301/34.428/39.628/1.818 ms

***@*****:~$ tracepath 68.142.120.44
1: 192.168.2.5 (192.168.2.5) 0.431ms pmtu 1500
1: 192.168.2.1 (192.168.2.1) 1.506ms
2: 10.19.0.1 (10.19.0.1) 23.651ms
3: 24-217-4-97.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (24.217.4.97) asymm 5 29.845ms
4: 24-217-5-49.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (24.217.5.49) 48.869ms
5: 12.124.129.97 (12.124.129.97) 47.988ms
6: 12.123.24.222 (12.123.24.222) asymm 11 45.599ms
7: tbr2-cl7.cgcil.ip.att.net (12.122.10.45) asymm 10 44.682ms
8: 12.123.4.65 (12.123.4.65) 39.221ms
9: 12.119.137.82 (12.119.137.82) 52.735ms
10: agg1-6-1.ar1.ord.llnw.net (68.142.72.206) asymm 11 36.116ms
11: so1-5-2.ar1.dal.llnw.net (69.28.172.225) asymm 12 68.354ms
12: agg1-21.fr1.dal.llnw.net (68.142.120.206) asymm 11 49.957ms
13: cds304.dal.llnw.net (68.142.120.44) asymm 12 40.342ms reached
Resume: pmtu 1500 hops 13 back 12

I CAN'T STAND IT ANY MORE! You guys were gushing over the Voodoo box like a couple of hucksters on the Home Shopping Network. You are knowledgeable, likeable propeller heads that are at your best when speaking from your heart in your own voice. But for some reason you both try to be smooth and put on a fake tv persona. My feeling is that if I were to talk to Robert off camera he would have a totally different opinion on the Voodoo box. Please get back to the true you before it's to late. - A Frustrated Fan

Well, their mac guy was talking about no right click in Windows. Control click does not work as right click on Windows on Boot Camp. However, you can enable this functionality by downloading and running an application called "applemouse." It should be put into startup items so it runs automatically every time.

It's a little embarassing to call out somebody and be wrong, isn't it, esp. since you're supposed to be a Mac writer?

A little research, from both parties, could have fixed the problem.

The drivers link for the XoM contest has info on enabling right click via ctrl-click and also info on mapping delete to another key on the MAcBook Pro running XP.

http://wiki.onmac.net/index.php/Users/Drivers

When is Apple going to realize that we DO NOT want to run XP on an Apple we WANT to run OSX on a PC.

Jobs wake up and stop being so afraid of Microsoft!!!

its just a regsitery edit this tool will make it easy
http://webpages.charter.net/krumsick/

There is no flash player and when i go to download, nothing happens. start making a basic download w/out going direct to a player. i get this weird page w/HTML stuff on it sometimes. i right click on the link and i have no "Save Target As" in my right click toolbar.

Well the download problems sure are local
i can download the show at 2 Megabytes per seconds with 20 Mbit connectin (cable)

just like to let you guys know that some people do get a good connection to dl.tv

I wanted to see Patrik and Robert in a kilt. =-P

Bummer.

Also, what's that dohicky I download to run tracerout and figure out why it takes an entire day to download this darn show?

That Guy on the Left reminds me of dwight from the "THE OFFICE"

Excellent job covering Linux in a way that will make sense to a broader audience! I use Open SuSE 10.0 almost 100% of the time and it is working great for me and it truly beats XP for my work use. I also use it for personal use and it meets my needs there too.

I am a Java programmer and I administer a small remote Linux server for my business. There are a lot of little things that stack up into Linux's favor. Here are some simple examples of things you can do with Konqueror: it can be eloquently integrated with the wonderful Kate editor, I can open tabs and connect to a Windows shares or FTP, I can use copy/paste inside Konqueror between local, FTP, and shares. My DVD drive works better in Linux (maybe would with XP with some more vendor updates but not sure). The Novell fonts make it look better than XP and that's important when you work as much with text as I do.

You could probably configure similar capabilities with XP and you can "harden" XP enough to run it comfortably. However, there's really no point for a hardcore techie. It would be ill-spent cost and time.

I especially liked how you covered the codec and DVD playback issues. It *is* illegal to use de-CSS in the US and it *is* a violation of EULAs to get the proprietary codecs from unlicensed sources. It is also against the law to go 60 in a 55.

I think it's crucial for the general techie public to get this exposure. Even a lot of hard-core Windows advocates will be shocked that these things are crimes. It sounds like something from a futuristic military state.

Linspire is the only legally licensed way to use Linux in the US as a proper general-purpose desktop. You can also get cross-over office and use IE but it sucks in comparison.

Linspire has licensed the Windows Media 9 codec from MS and paid the DVD "tax" so you can buy a player from them. Cyberlink (PowerDVD) now has the rights to DVD and WM 9 for Linux and can sell it through OEMs. LinDVD from Intervideo is also an option for OEMs.

The GStreamer project will apparently also address all of these issues. It is GPL with a plug-in framework and is backed by Fluendo, the company that provided the multimedia playback for the Nokia 770. They plan to make money selling the DVD playback and proprietary plug-ins. This is crucial for Linux to make further penetration into desktop use.

I think it's healthy for the Linux community to be brutally frank with itself about where Linux 2006 has the best fit-for-purpose. Here is an out-of-box OpenSuSE experience for home use: 1. User runs Firefox. 2) "Gee. Just like Windows" 3) Goes to Comedy Central to watch a video and is told the codec is not installed 4) Spends 4 hours figuring out where to get codec, ignores warning that might be a violation in their country 5) Goes back to Comedy Central and watches video 6) Goes to CNN and is told codec is not installed 7) Spends 2 hours researching this and figures out there is no way around this 8) Tries to play a DVD and launches into more research 9) Tries to play an MP3 and again more research 10) Tries to play a 3D Linux game and probably can't 11) Has trouble with their scanner, printer, etc. 12) Can't find any free software to edit a home movie clip. 13) Goes to a Flash site and is able to quickly install the plug-in 14) Goes to another Flash site and is told the Flash 8 plug-in is not available 15) Spends 1 hour researching whether there is way around this and finds there isn't 16) Goes to a Yahoo games and finds they must spend another 2 hours learning to install Java 16) Hears about Wine and wants to play a Windows game and either gives up quickly or after 20 hours of playing figures out it just isn't worth it.

Drop the whole idea of "everything is free with Linux" and this picture changes substantially. For $50 + $20 CNR subscription all of the out-of-box browser experience is first rate except for Flash 8. You can pay $30 for a DVD player. The licensing is also for all of the boxes in your home. So $70 would buy a license for me, my wife, and my son. If MS starts cracking down with "Genuine Windows Authentication" that's going to start looking like quite the deal.

Even still Linux requires a different mindset than Windows. If you use supported hardware and pay for a commercial distribution it can be mostly smooth sailing and an overall pleasant experience. The stability and freedom from malware are precious. However, start fighting with hardware and codecs and trying to use immature free software (like vid editing) and you are signing up for tens of hours of misery (or delight for geeks like me).

There is a different story in the server backrooms. I deal with a lot of admins in my business and most are either non-plussed about Linux, afraid of it, or really dislike it. It always centers on ease-of-use. The non-plussed ones are running it like the appliance it can be. They get a server with Redhat or SuSE pre-installed, load their ERP or LAMP app, and then just run the crap out of it with little or no issue. Things get ugly though if something goes south. They aren't amused with the bailing wire and bubble gum they see under the hood and the crap documentation and the obnoxious Linux dorks they find.

Companies like Redhat and Novell (especially Novell in my opinion) are changing this. We're also starting to see really excellent pre-configured application stacks like Pentaho and Hulu.

A small percentange of the techies I deal with are really jazzed about Linux. I've especially seen this with some IT managers in the SMB market. The whole freedom from licensing hassles is going to be huge driver for them.

FWIW, my opinion is Linux will dominate the net, hosted servers, and embedded devices. I think we're going to see it competing fiercly with Windows for corporate servers and I think it's likely it will start slam-dunking on the ease-of-use for admins. I also think it's likely it's going to start taking a 5-10% share of "light" corporate desktops.

It's unfathomable to me that a CIO would pay all of these fees to MS. I know there's no way in hell I would if I were running an IT shop. And if my admins complained I'd just sternly guide them along a development path. I seriously doubt "light" desktop users would give a crap. This is especially true if a company explains to the employees why the changes are being made and even spells out the cost savings. My experience is employees will get on board with these changes as long as they feel a part of the process but things get nasty in the breakroom discussions when something is just forced on them out of context.

The final frontier is the home desktop. This will require Linux to consolidate into a standard core. I have no idea if this will happen. It's possible that a distro like Ubuntu could dominate so heavily that it's the only version widely-supported by commercial vendors. Things tend to tilt in a rush and it could end up looking like 90% Ubuntu/10% 500 other distros.

I personally want to see something like that happen because I want the flexibility to choose from both proprietary apps and F/OSS ones. I love the idea of running Ubuntu (Kubuntu specifically) and then purchasing a few stellar games and kick-butt multimedia stuff like Fruity Loops for it.

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It could be Friday April 6th 2007.

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H.264 quaility has really been poor lately. Try this simple comparison:

Pull up the H.264 versions of DLTV episodes 30 and 50. Now compare them side by side. Episode 30 looks bright, well-lit and nicely saturated. Episode 50 looks really dark and murky.

Bit rate is NOT the problem. The bit rates of both episodes are nearly identical, about 585 Kbps. Episode 50 is actually a smaller picture(640x480 vs. 720x540 for episode 30.)

So why is it that with fewer pixels to encode and the same number of bits, Episode 50 looks so much worse? Have you switched to some skanky, single-pass encoder? Is the gamma set wrong? Forget to turn off the "Dark & Murky" filter in your video rendering software?

I continue to like the show, but the picture has looked much better at the same file size.

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There is a reason why the good HD recovery programs cost money. Your data is important, to get it back whoever makes a good program will be sane enough to charge for it (it recovers valuable stuff).

That said, I'd advise you to purchase relatively inexpensive spin-rite from www.grc.com. Two reasons (I am not affiliated in any way with that source): a) Used it for my work with 100% success many times, easy to use, next to perfect; b) It so happens that the author is old-Tech_TV/DLTV/TWIT (Leo) friend. If these guys recommend it, it states more than my single customer opinion.

PS I used some free programs couple of years back. I won't even search for their eventual existance as they were clumsy to use and provided ample chance to ruin remnant data easily.

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Hi guys. Just wanted to say I'm a big fan. Have been since Tech TV days. I have a small problem. My HD crashed. I used some "free recovery" program to see if I can recover my data. good new, I CAN! Bad news, it's not free like it advertised. Could you guys recommend ANYTHING to me? And that is FREE. Much apprectiated. Your long time and devoted fan...

SO_TURMOILTECH

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Mistakes happen. I don't know what's today's date is sometimes.

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anyone notice that on the top of this page we have both thursday the 6th and friday the 6th!!! cool little typo! or are they testing us??