Four minutes and counting! ;-)

its 4 min to show time and no live stream. grr! i'm sure it will be up, i just have nothing better to do now.

WoW didn't know if there was going to be a show today. What a relief.

Anyone getting anything, im just getting the dl.tv logo.

Cranky Geeks/DL.TV rocks. If only the people at the new Ziff Davis were at the old ZD, back in 2000.

Ummmmm???? is it on yet?

where is the feed???

bummer nothing but logo at 4mins after the hour..

ya im getting it for the past 10 min

what time does it start uk time? BST

Same ^

Did you see that little blip to the countdown clock and then I got all excited, and, then.........logo, lol! Patrick and Robert are such teases, lol! ;-)

I am just getting the logo too.

Only getting the logo as well. Not sure what is going on.

Same here. I'm just getting the logo.

Did roger trip over something again...

nothing here??

5 Mins in and all im seeing is the logo

Technical Difficulties Anyone??

8 minutes and counting

Im only getting a logo to.

still just the logo at 8 past... ok who pulled a cable.?!

Patirck said something on TWIT that they were re designing there set. Maybe they don't have it done?

Yep got that little blip too, still got that logo tho. It should have started 7 minutes ago

Am I missing something or is there just the logo of dltv on the feed.

Show or No Show?

I think this staring at the logo is a brilliant bit of Web 2.0 interactivity.

only the logo here too

bummer

Guess we are all gonna have to download this one.

this the first time for me with the live feed. is this usual?

I think in the future they should have a "we are currently experiencing technical difficulties" sign or something like that, instead of keeping us in the dark! Still got the logo, 10 minutes and counting!

dear God I'm bored... C'mon guys.. reboot or something

Ya thats all I am getting

I just finished a whole tub of Ben & Jerry's to myself now Im all hyped up on Ice Cream I need my DL.TV fix!

I first time I want to watch the show live and nothing.

figures

hmmm... definitely something broken in their transfer chain...

Where's the show

Patrick must be wearing that hairy man legs kilt again. It drains bandwidth...

Take two?

hey guys at ZD some iNformation please

still no show

Come on homies...what's the hold up it is 12 min past the hour.

GO!!!!

show time folks

ITS working

When I first watched the show live they had a hour delay because patrick screwed up the server. So your not the only one, plus there have been some times where they have been on time, normaly they run about 5-10 minutes late.

Its on!!!!!!!!!!

It's happening yet once again. The live feed is burping, stuttering and hiccuping. They really need to watch what they eat b4 the show.

Ahh technology undone by the weakest link...

does anyone else's player keep buffering

Normally I get 512 Kb but today im getting 64, and lots of stutering and buffereing, this is TERRIBLE!!!

sorry no stutter here "yet" last week it did...

Yep, same here. I've given up on the stream again.

I guess it's waiting for the download again. Only getting every other sentence so far.

Got stutter.. darn it!!!

CONSTANT BUFFEREING, THIS IS SOOOO BAD!!!

Stutters, Hiccups, Freeze ups, Audio cutting out. Unberable. I'm catching the Download tomorrow. ofw.

I'm getting 514kb. That's pretty normal for me.

The rebuffering is causing major headaches. err picked a bad week to recommend this show to my friend.

If we flood them with emails now, while the show is live they might be able to fix it, remeber the email address is dl.tv@ziffdavis.com

Me 2 this has never happen befor i have comcast.

"Stutters, Hiccups, Freeze ups, Audio cutting out. Unberable. I'm catching the Download tomorrow"

DITTO

This has to be the worst stream I have had so far. It keeps buffering. Is someone ddos there distrubution network or??

getting a constant 514Kb with no buffering
=\

I'm starting to get full sentences in almost!

I am in a little town in Kansas and it is streaming great!

Gone very bad now, getting some words in only. This is terrible, im catching the show tomz.

what ip provide do u guys have and at which bit speed.

I have SBC at 514kb/sec

yeahhhhhhhhhhh keeeeep buffering. pain in the asssss.
i hope they fix it.

I'm geting the suspicion that the distrubution network only handles something like 10 people at the same time. I anyone from the show should read this, pat, robert or scott hurry with the download version. I'm giving up on the stream for this episode.

Downloading tomorrow cant take this any more

Good playback around Detroit, Michigan.

Who was it that called patrick during the live show?

My streaming today was a strong 514k so that was great!
And hey, when you are on the bleeding edge of technology, crap is gonna happen, lol! I appreciate the effort and angst the DL.TV people go through to bring us my favorite geeky show! :-)

No liner notes? Physical - scratchy - media? *POSTAL* mail? Wow, where do I sign up? /sarcasm

Also, in my experience trading communities benefit only a small percentage of participants -- akin to a pyrimid setup.

It almost seems like anything with the RIAAs stamp on it HAS to be arcane and defy logic.

Did patrik or robert comment on what happend with the late start and stream from hell?

The feed was totally smooth for me through the whole show (Arizona), hooray.

WTF?

Were you guys on dial up streaming that show??!!

Constant stuttering, pretty unwatchable, and thats with 10 megs down...

Almost like you were using Linux

You had me then you lost me. Do you honestly believe most of the videos you are served off the big interweb are off what - Windows? G.A.C.N.

So what went down? I just got home to look at the agenda for today's show but to my surprise it's blank with only the stream link. No one is talking about it yet but I see that there is a lot of connection problems and someone called Patrick during the show.

It's not them! It's probably your isp. Haven't you guys been listening that people have had trouble downloading with really slow downloads because isp's have picked up on a new "trick" of limiting bandwidth to some web sites particularly video streaming and such.

VLC streams without problem here in Starkville, MS.
Windows Media Player embedded in firefox doesn't keep up though.
Weird.

Nvidia is better about supporting Linux. They support their current line of desktop and mobile chips with their binary driver.

Ati has yet to release a driver supporting the Mobility Radeon X1800, X1600, X1400, or X1300.
No support for Desktop Radeon X1900 X1800 X1600 or X1300 either.

This mean no accelerated drivers on Intel imac or Macbook Pro for running Linux.

I have a supported Ati Radeon 9500 Pro on Nvidia Nforce2 chipset. Nvidia eventually opensourced the code to enable support with the standard kernel agpgart. This lets me use ATI video card on NVIDIA chipset.

Dear crew:

While I was not avaliable to catch the stream today I have been able to in the past. In the future I would suggest trying to run a Sopcast server of the stream, saving yourself some bandwidth and possibly letting the stream run without as many hiccups.

If you have an questions getting that setup, you can mail me .. blendz At shaw.ca

Sopcast builds a pyramid style p2p network from live broadcasts and has proved to be working quite well. Its quite the step from other attempts like peercast was doing for video in the sense that it works for streams high volumes.

Second, the feed title seems to have been messed up in the changes as well, as the titles of the shows are now showing up as DT.TV not DL.TV. I know the feed issues were mentioned previously but I was unaware if anyone had caught that one yet.

Keep up the great work.

Emerica
http://www.streamdrive.com

Mplayer kept up too, in Fedora Core 4. As far as I know there is no version of Mplayer with a GUI for Windows yet, and with the DRA breathing down the neck of free software and open source... Please don't stop live broadcast. Video Lan Client has a version for windows at www.videolan.net I am sorry if I offend anyone.

PS

Here was a comment form "slashdot.org" Entitled

DRM will be the biggest mistake of the CI
by Opportunist (166417)

The content industry sees DRM as its saviour from the pirates. In fact, it will be their doom. Let's take a look at what DRM will do, and to whom.

For this we'll be looking at four groups of people:

1. The joe average sixpack crowd, who buy some music, copy some more from his friends and generally think DRM is the new acronym for the thingie to plug into your car to make it faster. He's getting some music online, doesn't make heavy use of torrent and is still plugged into Kazaa, but complains he doesn't find much anymore.

2. The people who use suck the net dry, whether they need it or not. It's there, it's free, it's on my HD. They don't know jack about the inner workings of the DeCSS, don't know who broke it, but they use it to rip it, with the neat and foolproof tools provided.

3. The people who know what DRM means to their privacy and who fear, hate and fight it. Not necessarily in that order. Out of principle, not because they want to pirate what's available. But it's a privacy thing.

4. The people with The Clue to actually break DRM.

Group 1 will suddenly notice that their movies don't work anymore, or that they can't play the movie in the player they want. They bought a $3000+ HDTV set and they now got the same crappy rez because some part isn't to the DRM's liking, so they get the low-rez instead of the promised HD quality. They're understandably pissed, sink another 2k into the system to get better resolution and then find out that, again, some things will work while others don't, they suddenly can't borrow movies from their friends anymore. They do buy most of their movies, but they're PISSED because more often than not the DRM locks them out of their (bought) movies, following the creed of "better prohibit too much than allow too much".

Group 2 will notice that they can't play the ripped movies anymore. They won't do anything about it but google the web up and down 'til Group 4 provides them with the tools to rip again. They won't buy a single movie. They're not in for the movie, they're in for the "wanna have".

Group 3 will talk to Group 1 and blame whatever irks them on DRM. Until Group 1 starts listening to it and starts digging up information about DRM. And they get MORE pissed. Group 3 doesn't buy movies either. They're not in for the movies, they're in for the privacy issues.

And finally Group 4 will spend its time tinkering with the DRM, they'll burn a few of the DRM crates 'til they figure out how to break it, release it and then we are right where we are now.

With a few differences.

Group 2-4 don't change their behaviour at all. They didn't buy before, they won't buy after. Group 1, though, is not PISSED at the industry for making it all so "complicated" and they will think and ask twice before ever buying any new equipment. They will no longer be on the spearhead of adaption, they will wait 'til one of their clued friends tells them that it's ok to get one of those babies.

Who loses? Right. The content industry.
Who wins? Nobody.

Thanks!

Can't they just have a computer rip the stream at the studio while they live-stream it? Then they would instantly have a downloadable version.

Just asking, it sounds like a idea..

any ideas when, guys???

"...thanks for your patience."

obviously Pat doesn't read the comments... ;o)

thanks for the update, guys!

yea,thanks for the update new's.
keep up the good work guy's. :)

It's O.K. guys keep up the good work. I know technology doesn't always work as planned.

yepee...
my commute will be complete now!! thanks guys!

I demand a refund!!!!!

Keep up the good work. Thanks for a good quality show that I actually look forward to.

I don't understand how Jenn at openalpha is able to do it all herself while you guys have so much trouble. Also, her video is better and her downloads are 400% faster! Shame on you!

lol should be ready to be download by next show

worked at a computer shop...
Kept finding defunct cards and hardware, and such..
finally had to talk to the Boss...
I mentioned that If its bad, BREAK the card, and dump it..
Hate picking up a card from an OLd machine that someone left on the desktop, and EXPECT it to work.
Then wonder WHY the computer isnt working..

Of ALL the internet,
After I clean a persons computer of BOTS and virus and STUFF(I have better words)...
I warn users that the web is like sex...
DONT go near it with out protection, at least 2-3 condoms, or you WILL be infected, from that dirty nasty Crank whore...

One moment of patience may ward off great disaster,
One moment of impatience may ruin a whole life.

so much for "it will be up in an hour"

my commute was so much fun without you today patrick =(

ho humm maybe tomorrow...

I will wager 10-1 that the real pnorton did not post that the downloads would be up in less than an hour. Anyone willing to take that bet?

Come on loser who posted at pnorton. Anyone who has ever emailed Patrick knows he doesn't sign it pnorton. He signs it: "P". Besides, you gain nothing by posting a dead link, n00b.

ATI and Nvidia roughly the same on linux? No way! Nvidia has had much better drivers for years now, and they support much more current hardware than ATI.

ATIs drivers only recently became mostly stable, and their control panel is a joke compared to the one Nvidia installs.

As for 3D support, ATI's OpenGL drivers are buggy and unstable, whereas Nvidia's are known for being as fast or faster than their windows drivers.

To sign up for LALA you need an invitation to join. So can I get an invitation?

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.5.0.2/win32/en-US/

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this beta rocks

Episode 52. can't wait.!

I can't find the link for the flash player for ep 52 what gives?

Hmmm, no web page link for Episode 52 Live Stream of Digital Life TV yet at 7:01 PM Eastern Daylight Savings Time on http://www.dl.tv web site.

Why no link yet?

Hey guys! Where is the live stream? :-(

Maybe they took the day off,or forgot.

YOU GUYS NEED TO STOP BEING LAZZY FUCKERS...

UPDATE YOUR PAGE BEFORE THE LIVE STREAM.. PUT LINK UP SO OTHERS CAN WATCH THE SHOW LIVE.. BE ON TIME WITH THE SHOW LIVE.. BE ON TIME WITH THE SHOW FOR DOWNLOAD..

FUCK I WOULD FIRE EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU LAZY FUCKERS IF I WAS THE BOSS FOR
Ziff Davis

wheres the link must have DLTV *jumps off bridge*

?

That sucks. i guess i'll jump in my pool. its so hot.

I don't know about FIRING them, BUT the
snarkiness is starting to get overwhelming

are we crazy for being so impatient??

No need to talk about them like that... come on it's just a webcast...

Maybe someone tried to put some tape on the cable from Tuesday's show :o)

Why don't you ask for your money back?

FIRST OFF, BE A MAN AND POST YOUR NAME, AND BE THANKFUL FOR A FREE SHOW, YOU A LITTLE CRYBABY.

Wellll They were going to make up Today for "Such a short show on Tuesday, but as it turns out? this one is shorter. or not at all.

I hope you guys aren't actually doing a show than no one can watch because the streamlink hasn't posted! :P
Oh well, there's always the download in a day or so... :(

Hope they let Louderback know today's show was a bust... it's their image and rep they are affecting. In all honesty they should at least post something so ppl don't come and wait.

that makes people walk away... jump in their pool.. etc..

Wellll They were going to make up Today for "Such a short show on Tuesday, but as it turns out? this one is shorter. or not at all.

somethings up now!!!!!

maybe if we all press ctrl-F5 over and over again, the show will come on quicker....

take a deep breath, its not the end of the world.

wt we saw tusday (nothing) for a few mins

4 3 2 1 your on.

I run an internet media outlet myself, so I understand the pressure these guys are under, and I am the first one to rush to their defense when soembeody gets snippy with them. It is a free program after all.

But, I have to be honest. They can be a tad ineffient from time to time. Not to come off as high and mighty, because it is certainly not my intention, but I have been involved in the web media culture for over 5 years, and truthfully, the little things are important and they could be done better around here. Knowing how true fans of IP media are, I would agree with a post I saw earlier which ashed why dont they just 'rip' a show as they broadcast it?" - This can be done with ease, and it will appease the die hards out there. They'll take your program in any way they can get it. The people who want the other formats will wait for them.

The live link should be available well before the show is scheduled to begin. I also assume the link is static, should really be on the page at all times, (on the sidebar). When you arent broadcasting, the worst that can happen is that it won't work.

I know that people get way too excited around here and complain way too much about how you guys do things. I am not defending these people. However, with 52 episodes under your belt, you should KNOW that these folks will complain. Here's the point. You can easily fix these little snafus and stem the whining, so why not do it? You would save yourselves a ton of headaches.

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no way, then pnorton would have to do extra work