Phew... your late.. for a minute I thought that I would not get my DL.TV fix....

Thank you... love the show...

first

Hello y'all.

Ok I heard Patrick..

But I have like 10th post?

Up and running.

NICE!

Stashmedia.Tv

unlike matt, i assumed that even though there were no comments, i was not first. Canadian: I was thinking the same thing when i came on a few minutes late.

Got ya covered this time around. ;-)

I guess history repeats itself, I think the first episode had recording problems. right?

3 mins till show time!

OMG FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn, lets hope that DIES before 2008.

im ready

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

ahhhh...my fix

will google store every document created with their on-line word-processor, for ever?

Thought I'd try a live feed on my SUSE 10.1 install (w/mods). And DL.TV is working fine!

How do you record the live stream?

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153007

they want 4 million by the end of the year. 2 million is just for launch

Google online word processor:Writely

Sandisk Drops flash Bomb

Robert is a sheep..kinda...baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Black-boxes will not be required in cars

Pat is a safe happy driver.

Robert kinda ran a red light.

Sony admits ps3's are not in production!Really?WOW..Its dead..already

300GB for $80!

The dumbest PC accessory ever?Yes..unless you live by your computer.

I'm recording it too using WM Recorder.

Is this really a 'live,' live stream or a recording streamed at 4:15 PDT?

There comming! there comming!Not the extended warrentys.

"Have you purchased the extended warrenty for that 2 dollar watch?

It is live..And todays feed is very great!Good job guys!

pullin it in at 489.0 Kbps @29 fps....

good job as always

Has anyone else noticed their icons and tab letters have gotten bigger?Have they finally realized we want to see the screen?

Warranties are good when you have to get a loan to get the computer for the kids home work.

You don't want to end up with a broken computer and a loan. You simply can not afford it, don't you

martin

489.0 KBPS @ 29 fps too.

Great job!

Yes if you have kids..of course get the extended warranty..I always get it..but thats just me.

It might cost more but not as much as getting it fixed or getting a new one.

ROGER ROGER!ROGER HAS EXPLODED!

I disagree with robert's statement about external drives always running full speed. I've got an AcomData ext. firewire drive that I use w/ my Powerbook, and I frequently hear it "spin down" after long periods of inactivity.
Just my 2 cents, thanks

Patrick now just talked about the best notebooks..

Isn't Apple tied with HP for Second?Why no Apple?

Why no love?

They are talking about the URL..this is for Pat or Robert,will DL.TV,Crankygeeks and The other Ziff Davis Internet Vodcasts/Vidcasts on Undotv?

ITS THE END OF TODAYS SHOW!

LAST EMAIL..

LAST WORDS..

LAST SHOT OF THE MONKEY TILL THURS.

CAPS LOCK!!!

yes robert the moon IS cheese...........

The moon is cheese..What is Robert on?

Moon Cheese?Just kidding

All i can say about the comcast scare tactic email is.. ENCRYPT YOUR BITTORRENT CLIENT! its an option in about every one out there. that'll drive the RIAA nuts! HA!

My Acer 9504 kicks arse and came with a 3 year onsite warranty from Acer direct.

Gotta back up for ya

177,165,188 bytes of pure DL.TV goodness

good show

funny coke metaphor

Robert, dude, you made my dogs go completely ape sh*t when you knocked on the desk.

I like to get a copy of blue version of your DL TV wallpaper.
Great show Rob and Pat

Phil in Boston (Barstona)

If the MPAA is using BitTorrent, and they are downloading a file they have verified is copyrighted material, then they have the IP addresses of everyone that is sharing data with them. Everyone who sends them packets of data that is not rejected as corrupt data would be in violation. (unless they have permission from the copyright holder like the MPAA does). I question the legality of them sending copyright information to other users under BitTorrent. It is possible to set your upload rate to zero KB/s, but I think most trackers will cut you off for doing that.

Programs like PeerGaurdian will block IP addresses of known anti-P2P groups like the MPAA, but how hard would it really be for them to have an account that the public doesn't know about?

good show and no hiccups.

...and the whole "intent to sell"/"intent to buy" crap really is enough to bust you -- unless you are an "undercover cop" setting up a sting. Kinda like how an unloaded gun that people assume is loaded is treated as if it were loaded. where is the justice?

@Jeff W
The show was SUPPOSED to start at 4pm PST.
The show was 15minutes late for some reason.
If you look at the top of this page, it says:

"Episode 88: Went live at 4:15PM PDT, 7:15PM EDT, 23:15 GMT/UTC!"

Hi Guys!
The show was pretty smooth live (my first attempt to watch it live) and only would stutter when a coworker would surf the net. Lighting was good and the sound was well synced to the vid.

Lightship isp (work's isp)
using an Athlon XP 2600+ (work's computer)
512 MB Ram
using 64MB onboard shared memory graphics (KM400)

I didn't think it could handle the live stream, but it did pretty well, abarring the few slideshow moments. (not a problem on your end)!

Good Job Guys!

Intentsly

My wife called during the show and I think I've either
missed the Linooks Oomph part of the show or it didn't happen.
If it did happen, please, fill me in on what'd I missed?

Oh and I did think I'd not be able to watch the live
show, due to the lack of status on the delivery time.

I almost gave up on it.
If it were not for Ryan's Feed 2 post on Ep 87's comments, I'd prolly not have seen it on time. Thanks Ryan!

Intentsly

Once you guys are switched over to the new service you
all mentioned (for removal of digital life references), we'll all need a new Live link to bookmark ;)
I'm sure there'll be those who'll freak out when the
switch occurs when they can't get the vid on the old
bookmark ;) ..or will they remember?...hmmm :)

Intentsly

About 2 years ago I got a brand new retail seagate 7200rpm 250gb 8mb cache(plus model) for only $40 with 5 year warranty.

One of the best hardware deals I ever got. 2 years ago 250gb was in the near the huge spot.

It needed a rebate but still.

Hi guys

I'm off to the airport in 1.5 hours, would be great if I could have this episode for my iPod to watch on the plane!?

Newegg has the hookup with no rebates ... patrick should shop online

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148139

Sombody else already mentioned Apple.. Many Mac-heads will throw out their Powerbooks now or soon(-nish). So if you plan to only use free software anyway you won't have any probs with the powerpc architecture. Everything in those Powerbooks is supported by GNU/Linux... even the gfx chips are supported (ati 7500 + 9000 + 9700 [r300]) by free drivers.

I don't know.... my dog has a habit of eating my DC charger for my cell phone (nextel). With this I could use my car charger. $8 is way cheaper than the $35 nextel wants to charge me for a new DC charger.

No you are right Robert does smoke and they did talk about it on TWiT. I linsend to that show.

Robert please stop smoking. We are all behind you in your effort.

So do these 'must work for 3 years' laws apply to products bought online from Swedish based companies? Hmmmmmm....

heh I didn't say smoking was bad. :)

personal freedom, what you do with your body is YOUR choice!

I got one of those letters from cox and they forwarded the complaintee's letter to me. NBC said that they like to solve these things in a non-legislative way. Anyway, 6 months later no lawsuit yet. And Roger, they got a PGP signature of the files I was hosting, so they pretty much caught me good (although they didn't get any entire files). I was using DC++, and had a media drive shared that contained a popular NBC/SCI-FI show. Now that I look back on it, it was really stupid to share gigs and gigs of files because the chances that a few of the thousands of files would piss someone off. IF you use DC++ (I don't anymore) share really obscure stuff that no one will care about.

I have used Kubuntu on my system at home, which cornsists of the following:
Asus A8V
Athlon FX-57 (aircooled)
2 GB of Corsair XMS DDR 3200 (led blinker version)
Geforce 6800GT AGP
2 34GB Raptor HD's (non-raid)
510W PCPower and Cooling Power Supply
1 DVD/CDRW drive

With all the above horsepower, Kubuntu performed sluggishly.
I don't know if it was the KDE interface or what,
but it certain didn't seem to have much Oomph.
I never tried it with the GNome project interface.
Any ideas on that? Thanks Guys!

Intentsly

Great show!
I might add an useful tidbit regarding power needed for Linux...
Users using older hardware may think about using the older Linux distribution versions. Same as WinOS stepped up resource usage as time went by, so did Linux(es). However, older Linux(es) are fully functional on older hardware and (tested in many cases by me for RedHat/Fedora) will give better end-user experience (apparent performance). Do remember to get all updates available...
My personal scale, using Intel CPU speeds (RedHat/Fedora scale, find appropriate other distro by time/kernel version):
-Below 400MHz processor, use RH7.2 but only in terminal mode. You'll be unhappy with the GUI. (Security issues for equiv. of RH7.0 and earlier ones! Avoid those).
-400-900 MHz RH7.2 or 8. 8 looks prettier, 7.2 is rock stable. Also for all Crusoe processors.
These and the more capable machines will do GUI without problems.
-900-1800MHz or up to 2.4GHz Celerons RH9.
-Centrino laptops up to 1.4GHz Pentium M and desktops up to 2.8GHZ, Fedora 2 (F1 was not the stable one).
-Anything newer, go with the best and the latest issue.
RH (and equivalents) will be happy with 128M memory but will excell with 256 or more; Fedora versions will need 256M, more the better.
16MB video hardware will do in any case, not an issue. Large separate swap partition will help performance.

I have a Dell C400 laptop, running Xubuntu. Its a PIII-Mobile running at 664MHz with 256MB of ram.

80MB
No Programs Running but the desktop with it's widgets and backround ps.

140MB Total System Usage
Dektop 1
Firefox
Lifera(RSS Reader)

Desktop2
OpenOffice Spreadsheet

Desktop3
Aterm x2(Terminal)
Thunar x2(File Manager)

Dektop4
D4X(Downloader Manager)
MPlayer in a terminal(Media Player)

When I'm done for the day I just suspend and when I open the lid the next day it pops back to life asking for my password to get past the screensaver and I'm back to work. The above is light amount of stuff open for me. Sometime I can have over 8 Virtual Desktop with atleast 4 things going in each.

I could use a much lower speced laptop if needed. 500Mhz with 192 MB or a 400Mhz with 128MB would be reasonable.
For me Memory is worth more the cpu speed.

Don't knock the Celeron. I have an old Celeron laptop at 1GHz with 256MB RAM running Kubuntu. Using a USB2 PCMCIA adapter, an external harddrive and a year old DVD burner I'm able to burn DVDs. Now investigating if there is a small footprint video editor that can run on this system and still be usable. Xubuntu uses an even less demanding desktop platform so there is always that option.

I have several old computers running Linux. It is probably best to use a lightweight distro like xubuntu or dsl. I have xubuntu running on a Dell Inspron 7000 with a PII 333Mhz processor and 256 MB RAM.

It starts up a bit slow and programs load a little slow but it is pretty good considering the overall cost of $0.00 to me.

It is a great machine to have sitting aroud for web browsing, mp3 player or word processor.

I would try to use a current distro designed with old hardware in mind rather than using an old distro. xubuntu, DSL, Puppy or dyne:bolic to name a few.

Anyone else seeing the video as interlaced when watching the live stream? WMP doesnt seem to deinterlace automatically and it's not being ran through ffdshow. I'm new to watching live webcasts, so go easy on the noob.

I'm interested in seeing how long it takes to get that MIR, I think I have one that still isn't in yet.

Great Show!

It's spelled Warranty not Warrenty. FYI. It's spelled wrong in the video.

I too got the DMCA email from COMCAST. I missed favorite late night NBC show (don't have TiVo) and I decided to download off the bittorrent. The next morning, I founded out that I've downloaded wrong episode and even got the DMCA email from COMCAST. It's been about five months and no NBC lawyer has contacted me yet. Maybe they are not pursuing me because I tried to download that one times or maybe NBC didn't want to sue the fan like other movie studios.

As far as I know he's safe as long as he didn't get letter from the Movie studio. Friend of mine (really it is not me, it's my friend) got 3 letters from the Movie studios. He ended up sending a check to avoid going to court.

What's with the crumby encoding/streaming quality lately? Or do the control & camera people need prescription eyewear to keep things in better focus? I see Cranky Geeks usually get it right presumeably using the same or similar equipment (just down the hall/stairs from DEE-EL-DOT-TEE-VEE) and then I see this! Compared to Crankygeeks this is jittery, jagged, unfocused, and somewhat "clunky." But it's still tollerable if Pat & Rob don't bob & weave too much. Anyone else seeing a small steady decline in video quality over the past 10 or so episodes?

if you work at compusa then the warranty is worth buying its really stinking cheap and if you break it then you just return it all the information is stored in their system so then you just return the peripherals not to much of a hassle...if you play it right depending on the item it doesn't have to be broken. if you are a regular customer then you can buy the warranty and 2 years later go back and upgrade the product and you get back what you paid for it. so for your geek that turns products over time and time again then i recommend it. as for the cigarette lighter thats been around for a long time at compusa. compusa has some of the dumbest mods ever if you just look around long enough you will keep finding stupid stuff.

"Extended Warrenty?" Warrenty? Surely your title spelling is on purpose, no one could possibly be that dumb.

I too got a DMCA letter. It came from my ISP, and it said that they had received a notification (per the process spelled out in the DMCA) from the copyright owner, and they were not telling them who I was yet, but that I should STOP hosting the file. I had coincidentally done so already, but I have since stopped using bittorrent for copyrighted material altogether. If I do become a repeat infringer, i would certainly lose my connection, and it could land me in jail and cost me a second mortgage payment. No Thanx! It just aint worth the risk. I'll just buy the DVD.

I also wanted to say that I am personally disapointed with the lack of information provided by Pat and Robert on the letter received. They said nothing about it's place in the overall process or what action if any could be recommended. I realize they are not lawyers, but it seemed like they just read it and joked about it. They missed an opportunity...

I see Patrick Norton is wearing more shirts but he should choose shirts that do not have large grease stains in the middle of the chest.

I don't know if Best Buy has changed in the last 10+ years, but the guy who mentioned his college Best Buy warranty case study mentioned employee commissions. Well at least since 2000 or so I know Best Buy doesn't give employees commission of any kind.

That said, I don't think any of us need to do research to know that the stores make a ton of money on these extended service plans. There's not a ton of margin in pre-built PC's or in game consoles, so if they can tack on a PSP or a PRP that's almost pure profit they're going to.

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my memory might be screwed but I thought that robert smokes, or at least use to. For some reason I remember back when TWIT was still in limbo of getting a real name and it was revenge of the (BLEEP!)screensavers that somehow it came up that robert smokes.

Am I wrong?