Looking forward to a great show!

This should be a good show, hope they give benchmarks for the 1950 XTX vs. the 1900 XTX ;-)

link not working for me, tried opera, firefox ad IE but all nothing.

7.02 will not stream.

Anyone else having this problem?

Yes it should be a good show. I'm ready to hear more about the 1950 review.

That was one of my planets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And my head was down.

Nice static protection guys NOT!!!

There was a video stream on MSN with a Mac Book Pro going up in flames!!!

Dude, patrick stop wearing that shirt!!!!!!

So apple's saying that all their laptops sense 2003 have been dangerous. I think they're just paranoid.

That shirt has done alota MILES!!!!

Bout time someone noticed huh??

Damn Lost stream... There it goes again..... Getting hammered tonight........

Connection problems much?

just froze one me

The stream died after 20 minutes! Boo!

The feed had stopped with Patrick holding the ATI card

The stream just died... the last thing was Patrick saying that he was excited.

Just died here in the UK too.

The feed just cut out on me!

Lost stream

good bye stream

Uh-oh. Come back, stream!

stream just died DAMNIT!!!

Stream died. Keeps replaying same thing when I reconnect.

anyone elses stream choke? I'm getting the 1950 speel over and over and over again. (did someone trip on the cable?)

Got ownd when Patrick was showing the 1950

Stream stopped while patrick was talking about the graphics card!!

just lost the feed.

it keeps playing the last 6 seconds over and over again

Your not the only one. i lost it to.. Hope the tricaster's ok

Cause it's just that shiny . . . forever apparantly . . . keep getting that repeated in the stream

Aww oooo Nooooo

I am in NY, NY cablevision is my ISP. on a 30mps down and 2 mps up connection and the stream died. I dont think its me :) I hope it comes back soon!!!

I lost the stream.

Stream is just buffering...oh no the tubes are clogged!!!

Well it just froze on the "Shiny"...keeps doing it. Guess I'll have to download the show tomorrow?

Yay for drm free music boo for streaming problems

This happends just too damn often. It's time for DL.TV to get some serious budget and gear.

Lost it here in TN to. I guess the Tricaster died.

I think the tricaster froze again...

lost the strem

Damm it went on me too.

Media Player Says server not online!

the stream went bye bye. *cry*

Server has died

It died when Patrick said "It's just so excited...."

Whats going on?

My WMP says it can't play the file cuz the server is not available! Oh, nooooooooooooooooooo!

No strem im pissed

Windows Media Player cannot connect to the server. The server name might not be correct, the server might not be available, or your proxy settings might not be correct.

Dead here too...

Zikes! First Pluto and now no stream!!!!

oh man, hope u guys get the feed back up =[ WMP 11 says the server is not avalible...oh my, hope everythings ok :O

When I try to reconnect it tells me the server is busy..

Why every Thursday?!

WHYYYYYYYYYYY

ok, who shot the critter? the stream is dead...uggg!

Time for them to ditch limelight, there has been to many problems with it!

Try Akamai as your CDN.

Damn it is down

Ok lets all Bow our heads in silence.........

This is the first time that I am seeing DLTV live. This sucks.

dl.tv needs to get there tubes cleaned there all clogged up

I hope the stream comes back.

R.I.P. Tricaster

Time for a hardware upgrade

gone, gone, gone ????

Stream = Dead.

Any Good Tube Jokes?

sucks .. lost the stream. media player says "server not online".

The stream died right before the commerical break for me!

Patrick says "Just that Shiny"...then poof goes the feed...:(

Yep, dead for me too. :(

It's worse than that He's DEAD JIM!!!!! Dead Jim Dead !!!!

I just lost the stream too. I here I was trying to blame my ISP for throttling my connection with all the buffering I had going on

NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

WHY?WHY is it every Thursday?If its every Thursday do it on Friday!

lost the stream

Oh no The Tubes are cloged with Poker chips..and Particks Horse is dead..and Robert is just putting more chips in..

Its lame.

i got all excited and connected my laptop to tv and the stream dies.

plz stop the tube jokes

Talk about the timing on the signal loss.

I'll catch it tomorrow. O well :(

the first time I watch it live and it goes down :( that's annoying :/ now it goes 6-8 hours before we can get to see it :/

Lost the stream

See, this is what happens when you don't use Microsoft Certified drivers on your server!

Its kinda funny, the stream died for different people and slightly different times (a couple of seconds). Mine died at a second into the first ad.

Its dead in michigan to

just wondering if anyone noticed...we get it already. STOP POSTING....sorry my stupid caps lock key got hit. someone should realy get rid of that thing.

It is stalled at 70%

The tubes must be over filled with all that M.J. is downloading!

I have lost the feed and WMP is reporting it can not find the server.

Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor not a network technician.

I can ping zdpub-diglifestudio.wm.llnwd.net (latency ~50ms) but the stream is dead!

See now if we had a chat room that htey monitored they could atleast keep us posted as to when/if the feed would come back up or if we all have the day off and just download tommorrow. Afterall I'm sure they know the stream is dead wihtout us telling them. And also would be one way of doing a semi-call-in show with active questions.

Well that's the internet for you. Makes me think of the old days of Techtv. Oh well. Guess I'll catch it tommorrow.

The Problem is IT's A WINDOWS PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!!

.nsv Streams are Way better and more Cooler!!!!!!!!

like I've said before ITs handls Streams BETTER than Windows Media ENCODER

Shoutcast SERVER with NSVTools

way to go!!!!!!

Nice! Mark

now no force in the universe will bring this sream back up... not even gold bug.

Patrick: This is exciting
Robert:Goodbye pluto

Then half a fade into a PC MAG ad then....... it freezes. Aww...

I want my money back..

Thats actually an awesome idea.

I'll make one if they don't.

"And when the live show is over, it goes away. "

WTF?!So what no more Live feeds?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

What do you guys want on it?

Hey!!Who choked the chicken?

THE FEED UP

The stream is back up online.

This is what happens when Robert taunts the almighty RIAA. Mr. Murray can't save you now Robert.

It's Back!

Its UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Back up

Back up

Came back, YAY!, Almost like it didn't happen (according to them)

i'll have half DL and half TV on my pizza

Hey, yeah, Guys do you think maybe you can leave a comment letting the viewers know if the stream will be back up? I'd appeciate it.

It came back

Cheeze,Green Peppers,Olives,Green olives,Pepperoni.

lets use the chat at the frapper map page

ok all better now

Missed 1950 Everthing I wanted to see.

Oh well,,,,,,,,guess I"ll watch a flix,,,,,Thank God for bittorent

dang it, the series of tubes died on us. :)

Try reconnecting cuz we're back!

NT

So did they know? Seems like they just continued without even knowing the stream went dead.

ITS BACK ON

Here we go!!

It left again just as they are fading into the commercial.

DOWN AGAIN

AAAAnd it's dead

This sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

did it just die again?
curse those commericals

slippery when wet. thank god for downloads !!!

GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AGAIN Damn Monkeys Robert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The f*ing stream died again, i can't believe they're toying with my heart like this!

Down again

Its dead again!

The stream always breaks at when the commercials start. I think it's the tricaster's fault.

It died on the commercial

The stream died again when the ads started rolling!!!

A cat has what 7 lives? How many does this stream have?

Geez.... Seems like the ads are the source of our problems...

its every time the commercials come on arggg!!

Damn!!!!!

Nooooo, not again

Come on will this ever work!

I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!

Hey!that chicken is gettin choked again.

yes it's dead again! Rats! Thought we had it! :-)

Stop showing ads and just finish the show!

Damn, worked for 25 sec then froze again!

And now there is no stream.

no it is down again maryland

irc.servercentral.net

#DL.TV

K, half an hour.

streams down :(

SOME ONE MAKE A DAMN IRC CHAT ROOM.

There is monkeys I can see them.......last ten seconds

died agian...noooooooooooooooooooo

Stream is gone again!!

Its lost all of it's lives..

GET A BETTER SERVER!OR SERVICE!

I wonder how many people are losing there jobs right now :D

The monkey is in cahoots with the RIAA.

I blame the monkey under the desk. I knew there wasnt something right with that thing!

DL.TV seriously needs a chat room like Leo Laporte's The Tech Guy.

With the recent stream breakdowns, someone needs to blog the show live like Engadget does for Steve Jobs' keynotes. ;)

for get it. i'll just wait when they upload it the web site. Grrr.

The shows almost over anyway.

DL.TV Chat:

http://home.comcast.net/~ipodman715/dltv.html

The tubes must be clogged.

I watch on a Mac in Safari using the Flip4Mac plug-in. Normally, the show just appears in a small box in the middle of a Safari window...

This time, the guys were stretched out to fit the entire Safari window. When I resized the window, so did they. Really weird, never seen that behavior before!

The stream then quit on me too finally, like others are reporting.

Nooo, not again

I'm with you there. This is just too painful to reload the stream to see if it works. Seriously, and i believe it's the not so reliable tricaster, burn that pos.

well,,,,,,,pass the hat to collect money for new equipment......

It's limelight.

The link isn't even opening WMP anymore.

Stream Died Twice... I give up !!!

fool me once,shame on you.Fool me twice,shame on me.fool me 3 times,shame on us all!

The link is opening WMP for me still.

Hell I couldn't get Cranky Geeks this afternoon either

The show should be over by now, but the link's still up.

nevermind...

DLTV chat. Made one on efnet. Join the #DLTV channel in your favorite IRC client. Or use the online one here http://chat.efnet.org/irc.cgi Just make sure to change the channel...

Just to let people know, alot of people are using this chat room: http://home.comcast.net/~ipodman715/dltv.html to talk about dl.tv issues if you wanna join. (I didnt set it up, I am just passing on the info)

Oh well, time for Who Wants to be a Superhero!

Oh sure,show comes back up as the closing credits are rolling.

is it legal for me to download a windows xp cd if i already own a license cos i have kinda scratched my cd to hell

Technically, yes, what you are doing IS illegal. But frankly, who's gonna catch you? Unless you have a sue happy microsoft law dept guy staring over your shoulder, go for it.

Jake: I believe Microsoft replaces licensed CDs for a small fee. Check with them if they still do that. If not, the whole idea of software being "licensed, not sold" actually protects you to an extent because destroying the CD does not void your license. Basically, you are legally allowed to have a copy of Windows, so where you get it from doesn't matter as much.

IANAL

I usually download the show the day after and I NEVER read the comments so today I thought, "Why not?" Ah, who cares about the stream, I'll just get the show tomorrow. But why, WHY, do people keep posting that the stream is dead? We all KNOW the stream is dead! Stop it!

And Jake--that's a loaded question. The short answer is yes, it is legal. The long answer will end with "probably not." What you purchase is not the cd but a license to use the software. So if you own a license how you get it onto the machine shouldn't matter. So--did you purchase a (full) license for XP, or is it an oem preinstall where the manufacturer gave you a cd? (If so, how did you get that lucky?) If not, was it an upgrade? If you paid full price for the copy you own (as in you bought it, as they say, 'shrinkwrapped') you will probably not have problems with MS. If it's an upgrade and you own a (shrinkwrapped) copy of an older version you are most likely in the clear. The oem license won't transfer to another machine so if you are installing it to the same machine you should be okay. Otherwise it is undoubtedly illegal. Moral of story? Take care of valuable disks.

I missed it :(

True. IF you bought a copy of windows. Buying a computer running an oem licensed copy is not the same thing.

Jake, when you say you own a license do you mean you purchased XP shrink wrapped?

What did I do wrong : use apple 10.4.currant ; Safari instead of Firefox: Earthlink or Comcast don't like you . I was at the right time and place but no live steam?

It has been answered that it shouldn't matter to you where you get the version of Windows that you are licensed for. However I do not believe it is legal for someone else to distribute copyrighted material without the express written consent of the copyright holder. If you download a Windows XP disk image, you may be an accomplice to a crime.

Looks like they are re-airing it for testing purposes... GO TROUBLE SHOOTING!!

just thought everyone would like to know you can discuss dl.tv over at htttp://www.iptvboards.com. they are also running a contest right now for the posts in their forum. winner gets 50 bucks.

Anything that moves alot becomes all liney, blech!

Intentsly

thanks for the link

Right before the What's New Now ad, there was a hawk eating a dead bird? S'up with that!?! lol

Intentsly

Hi Guys!
Great show! I did have some slide show moments and I'm the only one working at the time, everyone else has gone home (3rd shifting). So, unless my shared memory onboard vid card here at work is sucking, there might be some bandwidth problems somewhere. Thanks Guys!

Intentsly

It bufferend at one point, but other than that, it's been pretty smooth.

ATI drivers seemed to have left me quite angry in the past. The only card that seemed to work well for me was the 9800, near 0 downtime. So, it seems their drivers have come along way. I'm still not convinced to buy ATI though. I will say that ATI's colors do not seem as washed out as Nvidia. It was painful to go from Voodoo that had the best colors on display to Nvidia. If the drivers are solid and perhaps if I saw someones rig running a newer ATI card with no hitches, I'd consider trying one.

As you know I've a sordid CPU history, graphics cards are no exception:

1st was a generic card with a Trident chip

2nd was a Matrox Millenium that was too flaky for much of anything

3rd was an older ATI card -not memorable enough for a model number

4th was a Voodoo3 3000 - got me hooked on First Person Shooters

5th was a Voodoo5 - a little clunky with some huge video input cable thing

6th was a Radeon - flaky at best, but looked good when it was working

7th was a PNY Nvidia Ti 4600, which got me hooked on Nvidia.

-Radeon 9800 in my ex g/f's machine worked well, twas an experiment :)

8th ASUS Nvidia 5950, which rocked until it seemingly
died - an electronics friend got it working again
and he still runs it today playing BF2, amazingly!

9th XFX Nvidia 6800GT AGP, present card still Kicks ..butt!

10th will be something SLI'ish

..whew! I wonder why I had no savings... :D

Intentsly

I have a rather jumpy video card history.

There was a thread on the PA forums asking this not too long ago, so I'm just going to post the chronological line here from first to latest (Note: the last two are on my current rig):

Cirrus Logic Video card -> Voodoo 2 -> Radeon 8500 -> Xpress 200 Integrated -> GeForce 7600 GT CO

There is absolutely no consistency in the amount of time we have to wait before the episode is encoded, you'd think that because all episodes are about ~45 min and the encoding platform is the same ( I guess), we'd have some predictible release time interval.....NOTHING
As much as I love the show, this gets on my nerves, you guys gotta fix that, sthg with the process is definitely wrong.
N.B : To the stupid morons who are going to mention that the show is "free", a gentle remindr that network TV is also free...and episodes of "lost" don't start at different times...every week

I got the whole show. I was using WMP 7 on XP.

Hey Guys!
Sorry to hear the stream was lost to the bit bucket.:(

All you folks keep mentioning the monkeys and they'll keep tying up the tubes! Instigators all! ;)

There may be better equipment out there, but as we,
who know what budgets can be like in the real world,
understand that it may not be possible at this time to
get something better. Plus the fact that Pat has said
it was NOT the Tricaster who-dinger-thingamajig. I
know such inflated terminology from a technician ;)

Hmm, FireFox Tools menu slide down 5 choices and yes
Extensions is still spelled with an "s". ;D
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Maybe some beta's were meant to become RC's, don'tcha think?
Then again Orwell alway's said Alphas are better than Betas. Hmmm... what gives? hee hee

Intentsly

Where is the download. I've been waiting all day because I missed last nights live stream. I've also checked the RSS feed source code and there's no sign if anyone has the DivX or H.264 Download link, please post them.

--Bradley

Good idea Sami, little hot for chili though! ~_^

you should goto www.crankygeeks.com and download this weeks episode while your waiting.

Crankygeeks just posted their downloads.

Sami- Network television is NOT free, save for over the air broadcasts, and remember, even then, there are FAR more advertisements on network television shows. Yes, release times are inconsistent, but hey, we get this fine blended show for free. Patrick, Robert, and everyone behind the scenes do an excellent job, and they deserve every cent that they make. We, on the other hand, just need to be patient, or look for the not-so-distant future of having to pay for our downloads, so that they cover the cost of the, "huge, honkin' bandwidth bill".

--They'd have no huge bandwidth bill if they chose to release it as a torrent (and yes there ways to count downloads, they're just too lazy to do it).
-- They can post the fastest to encode format first, Fanboys and format-fanatics can "wait" a bit more.

I agree with sami, but, I think dl.tv should say downloads will be available the next evening instead of the next morning or afternoon. Also, I think they should just skip the live feed which would cut costs and maybe make the show longer. What do you think?

they should not have said "Ep 89 will be available for download Friday! (If not in the wee small hours tonight)" what this says is the download would most likely be ready thursday night, or EARLY friday morning. it is now 11am in the afternoon their time and there is still no downloads. the wait would not be so bad if they gave an accurate estimate and i wouldnt have to refresh page so many times a day expecting the download to show up.

Cranky Geeks is done and available. Shouldn't be that much longer for dl.tv

Just chill folks

Doesn't anybody have this thing called patience anymore?

True the networks can get their shows to air on time, but the difference is they have huge budgets and major sponsors. This show on the other hand is still a work in progress. They are trying to please the fans as much as they can, but they dont have the hundreds of thousands of dollars the major networks have to buy the latest and greatest equipment. And maybe you dont remember the long weekend Patrick put in a few weeks ago just so we would have that episode.

I want to see the show as soon as possible, but I do have the patience to wait for it to come. Just remember "good things come to those who wait".

Networks can get it right, YOU THINK...??

But they AIM 6 months ahead...AND still cant figure out that Baseball and football RUN OVER TIME, and your Favorite show AFTER, probably WONT get shown.
THIs is live, and repeated.

HOW many are OLD enough to remember LIVe TV??
Ooops, you said WHAT??
OOOPS that machine didnt work.
OOOPS, I wasnt supposed to ASK THAT...

Unless you are willing to WAIT, 2 weeks for this NICE folks, to get 4+ shows ALREADY done, and POST old news, SHUT UP..
Until you are willing to HELP render and EDIT the show, LIVE...SHUTUP
Unless you are willing to UP FRONT, start a INTERNET Distribution HUB, YOURSELF and keep it CLEAN, and keep your Access CLEAR....SHUTUP..

I wish they would just do 3 versions... WMV, IPOD, Quicktime. That is enough. It would get the vids out faster. I don't see the point in making 10 versions of the same video. People will watch it on one of the 3 because the show is good.

ECA, Thank you.

Im an ubergeek...
Iv done Stage, Video and sound production.
Iv seen what HAS been done, and can be...
and I REALLY know what it takes to Edit, format, and THEN change the video formats..
why dont ya try something..
After the first edit, POST the RAW file up. LEt them have fun, with a 1+gig file download..Let them TRY to have all the programs needed, and a system with ENOUGH power to convert it.
THere ARE OPTIONS, but that shouldnt be discussed HERE..as I dont know your full setup.

My machine ain't that new and the processor ain't nuttin special, so the divx is perfect for me.

Tried a couple times today (most recent 17:50 eastern). Video download links are unresponsive. WMP reports that the server is unresponsive. Traceroute to zdpub.vo.llnwd.net shows okay.

Hey guys!
Whats up?
I watch the Divx version of the show. I watch it on a 32" Zenith HD CRT through my HTPC.

I couldnt help but notice the wide shots of both of you were blurry and almost out of focus.

When the camera shot turned to a tight head and shoulders shot of either one of you it was clear and crisp!(great PQ)

Just wondered what was going on?

Keep up the Good Work!
Timmy LaPorte IN

That was no bird, that was a RIAA intern!

Is it just me or does Patrick look like he got attacked by a snake on his forehead?

Sami-

So, is this better machine that they can get to encode going to just materialize out of thin air? It takes money to buy such things, and budgets are tight. I'm a production technician for stage, concerts, theater, and TV, and let me tell you, the production budget, or lack thereof, is usually the last thing that anyone ever thinks of, when it comes to money for productions. Hell, in the corporate world, the IT guys are usually begging to get better equipment, especially in schools (for which I have been a network admin for).

Also, as is evidenced by posts like yours, if they put the fastest to encode format up first, there would be people, like you, either bitching about the quality, or whining that it's not the format that they prefer to use. I personally enjoy having the different formats, though, I do use the h.264 the most, as it is the cleanest looking on my TV that I watch the show on.

Lastly, there is no real slam-dunk way to host the files via torrents, and be able to track how many people are viewing/downloading. Yes, it can be done, but it can be easily foold, cheated, or otherwise manipulated. I suggest you read up on how torrents work.

so many broken records.. too much attitude.. no patience..
too much narcissist ego inflating..

To Sami,ECA etc..

If you have to tell people to shut up, because you may/may not know more than everyone else, then why bother spewing it all over if not for self flaggelation? People, generally, don't appreciate negative attitudes.
Basically you are putting people off that may not have
the full understanding of the situation that you might
have, nor the resources you portend they should have
before voicing an opinion.

Pat and Robert do this for money, but they can go and
make money doing other things. This is fun for them,
which in turn makes the show better and worth watching.

If you have suggestions that you'd not want to discuss
HERE then send them an email - as they have suggested.

Helping one another learn about things and sharing
ideas at all levels would be something that would help
end the pointless ranting etc.. that can be frustrating
to read here.

Understanding, tolerance, and patience would only
benefit everyone. Attitudes, egos, and impatience
just brings everyone down. Lose the Hate!
It leads the path of the Darkside... ;)

Intentsly

The wide shots are blurry in the h.264 too. It must be something with the camera.

I used Mozy, and it works great... BUT they send you spam (only 1 email a week and its easily filtered out of your inbox).

I use Carbonite.com, its 5 bucks a month and gives you unlimited space to back up your stuff. So far I am at almost 50 gigs.

I prefer the mozy interface but mozy gets more expensive if u have large amounts of data

I love Mozy, it's one of the greatest services out there.

BTW all, Patrick Norton just did an interview with the techPhile podcast. He gets into a lot of stuff about the show. techPhile.ca if your interested.

www.mindawn.com offers drm-freeeee and OGG music.

The only way to go.

Anyone else having trouble viewing the video under Linux?

http://gameagme.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

Yea chat up about DL.TV here guys if you dont mind.

Inten..

yes this is a jojb, and an avocation...
But can you do a job when it requires you to Depend on other services, other people, and equipment that May not always DO what you want, when needed.
Have you ever faught a video encoder? Hardware or software??

You want a few hints??
Easy ones are:

Take pictures of back grounds, and SEE how they compress. Pick something that looks nice, and compresses GOOD. Look at Camo like colors..NOT green, just shaded in the SAME Hue.. They compress REALLY well and can reduce the video size, AND add contrast. But this also depends on the compressor as much as anything else. Metal is cool, but can be to SHINEY and can ADD to the compression.

audio must be kept, ALMOST uncopressed IF possible. compressing audio can destroy it..Use 1 Omni directional mic, OUT front, and 1 behind to pick up your audio...On person mics, arent EASY to balance, and just the movement of your head changes the volume.

I would LOVe to see you goto Direct to HD/computer recording. You dont worry about how much room you have, you can record it in ALMOST any format, and have AT LEAST 1 format out in afew hours, after edits, or a RAW in 1 hour...IF you can afford the bandwidth.

Lighting, is fun AINT IT...Its better to be alittle BRIGHT, then to dark. you can add contrast during EDIT, to cut back the light.

3 camera...1 on you, 1 on the other guy, and 1 for panning...Focus at the distant, and FOCUS..Then pull back, and its set... You can MARK the camera focus for POINTS of zoom...Makes it FAST and easy...Use tape or NOTCH it..and MARK the spots on the table IF you want to dispaly something.

Drapes and HEAVY curtain can cut Echo and background sounds, ALOT.

You did well in cutting down shadows, but I dont know what you are using as lighting. i found that MANy cams work nice with alittle IR installed, as it brightens the pic and dont ADD heat

another point,
Not thinking you are tech stupid..
Is color depth.
you dont need 32bit color, when 8bit/16bit/14bit/any bit shows as much, IF your compressors can handle it, CUT it down.

Frame rates..
60fps isnt any better then 30...and 20 can save you ALOT of file size. and considering that most persons use a computer...640x480 is decent at 90dpi, even 85dpi..
I dont know the math for figureing your FPS with only the BPS.

Did you mean Mediamax?

I think you were talking about streamload who are now Mediamax.

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