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Episode 183:
Tentative Deal Reached Over Web Radio Royalty Fees,That Vertical Key Thingy? It's called a Pipe. And More.
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• Alex had a question about the Intel Q6600 and E6850 processors. Specifically he wanted to know which would be a better choice for a multi-tasking/gaming PC since both processors would be priced equivalently in the coming week. The Q6600 is a quad-core part running with a 1066MHz FSB and clocking in at 2.4GHz. The E6850 runs at an even 3.0GHz on the new 1333Mhz FSB. The question ultimately depends on software really. More heavily multi-threaded apps will be better taken advantage of using a quad-core processor like video encoding. The E6850 has a faster clock speed and front side bus than the Q6600 so it will be faster with CURRENT crop of games. Down the line however as games become more multi-threaded that could change and the Q6600 could be better. On over clocking front there's much more head room on the Q6600 than the E6850 which is already near the limit. Go with the E6850 if you want faster performance with current games and non-multi threaded apps or pick the Q6600 if you want potentially better performance down the road and chip more flexible when it comes to overclocking.
• Dell power supplies from machines built between 1996 and 2000 can kill non-Dell motherboards. Thanks to Mark, Joe and "The Amigo" for giving us the specifics on this. It's a pin out issue on the 20 pin connector... it looks like standard ATX, but it isn't!
• Oh... "The Verticle Thingy On The Keyboard" ... it's called a Pipe. Thanks to David, Michael, Kirby, Bill, Brian and Greg for writing to inform Roger and Patrick
• E3 was downsized this year so the expectations weren't big as the 1UP crew made their way through this year's event. While Sony made some big announcements regarding a revised PSP that's slimmer, lighter, color and coordinated along with a $100 drop in PS3 pricing all turned out to be non-news stories as attention focused on the upcoming games his fall and early next year including up and coming PC shooter Crysis in all of its DirectX 10 glory.
• Ryan wanted to know what brownouts were and what if any ill effects it could have on computer equipment. Brownouts are sags - reduced levels - of electrical power as opposed to a complete disconnection of power in a blackout. This is often caused by power supply or transmission issues usually from over demand of power like too many users or an old fridge kicking in. This can often wreck havoc on computer equipment when the power snaps back up but also when components malfunction from improper voltage that can cause the machine to fail completely, damage to hardware or data loss. Best solution is to invest a beefy UPS from companies like APC and Belkin. They're good insurance against blackouts, brownouts and the occasionally electrical storm. Remember when it doubt about how much to get err on the side of more power than not enough.
• Finally for folks who want to get a regular set of ear/headphones plugged into their uber-chic iPhone there is a solution. Because the space around the 1/8" jack on the iPhone is recessed your standard headphone won¹t work. However Belkin has made an adapter that will allow you to plug in your normal headphones into them. Another solution is to use an exacto knife and cut away enough casing material from around the headphone jack to allow the use of a normalheadphone plug.
• SunRocket Folds... We received a few emails this morning asking advice on what to do after SunRocket, the second biggest VoIP provider in the US, shut down operations with notifying customers. A unnamed source told the New York Times that the company is trying to place its 200,000 customers with another provider.
• What VoIP provider would we use? Skype. Or, if it's decently priced, whatever your broadband provider offers.
• Linear-Logic's ScanGuage II plugs into your car's ODBII port, and acts as a scan tool, trip computer, and live gauges for MPG, MPH, engine temps, your throttle position sensor, all sorts of interesting stuff.
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Posted by:
Adam
July 17, 2007 3:46 PM
Can you guys get more info on the Sunrocket problem? PLEASE!!!Otherwise Awesome show!
Posted by:
bigmouse64
July 17, 2007 8:56 PM
Hello interweb.
I've really looking forward to this episode! Due to the fact you're having a dual(pardon the pun) between Quad and Dual core! This is going to be sweet, I'm hyped!
Keep up the good work!
Posted by:
Mitchel Tyrell
July 18, 2007 1:03 AM
You must have hit the CTRL key on the keyboard and scrolled the mouse in Internet Explorer. You caused the page to zoom.
Posted by:
Phil
July 18, 2007 1:39 AM
Just incase anyone is interested in the pipe key...
The "Pipe" also has a couple uses in Windows. not just a "Unix" thing.
Command Prompt (Windows):
ipconfig /all | find "IP Address"
(will return all IP Addresses on the current computer (if multiple NIC's are attached)
Basically it'll pipe the output of the first command through the second command.
C++:
if (dltv == rocks || a = 5)
Basically used as "Or".
(though in this example it'll always be true because we all know dltv rocks. =P )
Posted by:
Mike Wolf
July 18, 2007 3:41 AM
I cant tell you enouh about how much battery backups are useful. If you want more information on brownouts and other power issues, check out:
http://www.apc.com/power/power_event.cfm
Posted by:
Chris
July 18, 2007 6:39 AM
Why don't you guys drink on the show like they do on Cranky Geeks?
Posted by:
ECA
July 18, 2007 7:11 AM
ON UPS,
A good one ALSO, has the ability to take RF OFF..
If you hear Backgroud sounds coming from a system, its from FM.
Posted by:
ECA
July 18, 2007 7:15 AM
PLEASE...
I places my comment on power and fuses, and you deleted it...
ITs CORRECT...
A fuse must Have POWER to pass thru it...AMPS is HEAT, the amount of FORCE being USED from the power..
Iv checked with my friends...
ITS correct.
240v 1a= 120v 2a = 12v 20a.... Watch the Volt go down and the Amps go up... please post.
Posted by:
Scott AKA reddragon72
July 18, 2007 9:36 AM
Crysis is going to be the only game I will pick up, in fact it will be the only game I will have picked up in the past 3 years. Now guys how about an ATI/Nvidia roundup/benchmark of there new DX10 cards, be it from you guys directly or lots of links to actual DX10 benchmarks, cause all I have seen on the internet(google) is those cards in DX9 and older game benches. DX10 is simply none existent but I need to find a good price to performance ratio DX10 card.
Posted by:
Glenn
July 18, 2007 9:41 AM
Patrick...
"FeeOS"? That's a joke, right? (I must have missed that episode.)
Posted by:
Jamie
July 18, 2007 1:18 PM
Hi DL.TV crew,
I just wanted to voice my opinion that I really miss the news segments in the A block. It seemed to get the show off to a great start. I know that there are other places to go for the news, but it seemed to give your show more depth than just product reviews.
Posted by:
dusan maletic
July 18, 2007 2:34 PM
Dear ECA, fuses again... Please have your friends check engineering specifications for the fuses. Amperage rating relates to what amperage will melt and break the fuse. Voltage rating relates to completely different (and important) issue: will the already melted/broken fuse conduct due to the arc/sparc between its now open ends.
Multiplying these numbers is meaningless.
For an experimental example: testing for the fuse voltage rating is done on an already BROKEN fuse.
For a theoretical reasons behind all of this: fuse is not an ohmic device (like a resistor).
Hope this helps keep you all safe,
Dusan Maletic
Posted by:
sdf
July 18, 2007 3:39 PM
I don't think Patrick drinks and Robert is wild enough while sober. This ain't diggnation (not that there's anything wront with that)
Always nice to see 1up guys on the show.
Posted by:
jarry
July 18, 2007 10:29 PM
A word of warning, about APC. I have a APC 1000 pro and I love it and all but if you ever need SUPPORT for a APC backup unit, It's in India.. I could not for the life of me understand a word the tech support guy said. in my 20 years of dealing with computer companys I've never had worse support in my life.
Ohh ya the sales people are clearly English and live in North America but found it funny when I phoned them back to complain about the level of support I got. They didn't care, they even joked about it with me on the phone about how bad it is. I would think Twice about buying a APC product's again.
Posted by:
Mr Fish
July 19, 2007 1:49 PM
Regarding your review of the ScanGuage II:
The fuel usage inaccuracy can be solved by calibrating the device. In the manual, there are instructions for using the "FillUp" menu item and entering the amount of gas you put in. Do this once or twice and the accuracy will be almost dead on.
Posted by:
Ryan
July 19, 2007 7:58 PM
iPhone... knife.
How bout a little more surgical solution, such as a DREMEL.
Posted by:
ECA
July 20, 2007 1:27 AM
Dusan..
But the Fuse has to Carry power that finishes the system, it is PART of the circuit...So it MUST be that Voltage IS a requirement. As if you try to shove 6volts thru a 3 volt circuit It goes POOF....That Or Blow up the system.
Posted by:
Brad
July 22, 2007 12:08 AM
A few notes on your battery backup story.
It's true having a battery backup is a lot better than not. Be aware, however, that the cheaper UPS's do not usually have a very clean electrical signal. You can verify that on an oscilloscope. Robert mentioned sign-wave technology which is a lot cleaner and is well worth paying a little bit more for (you can find reasonably priced units). Also, do not hook your printer or other high draw appliance to a UPS. It is not meant to handle those devices and will usually result in the UPS automatically shutting down. Hope this useful. Love the show. Keep up the great work.
Brad
Posted by:
Dan
July 24, 2007 11:06 PM
Not sure if the placement of the "monkey" was appropriate. I was surprised that no one else picked it up! Not that there many places to hide it, but seeming between Patrick's legs is not very family friendly.. The show rocks guys! Keep it goin.
Posted by:
Chris Feehan
July 26, 2007 11:39 AM
The Verizon Fiber Optic service is called FiOS (F - eye - OS) not FeeOS. It is the fastest Internet by 4x in my area, and the TV offerings are incredible. The big advantage is the capacity for more HD channels than anyone else in the near future.
Thanks
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